We ought to adopt God's attitude toward Edom, rather than to return hatred for hatred. Of course, Edom refers to Esau, so Edomites are the descendants of Esau. CHAPTER VERSE Hebrews 12:17 "For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Hebrews 12:17 Context In chapters 3 and 4, we observed that our position is not unlike that of the first generation of Israel that was barred from the Promised Land due to its lack of faith. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us (because Messiah did not primarily come for Gentiles). Do - Don't just change your mind, change your actions. It is joining to Israel that is fundamental to the Gentile salvation, which is why we have this: Isaiah 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to YAHUAH, speak, saying, YAHUAH hath utterly separated me from his people (cannot join to YAHUAH and be separate from his people): neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. But God is not impressed or threatened: he will cut them off in their pride, wise and powerful together. We actually did a teaching on the virgin birth. The prophecy was delivered after the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC and has two main parts. Therefore now, O YAHUAH, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live. Because it speaks that Edom refused. As an adult, Esau rashly sold his inheritance to Jacob for a bowl . Many in the Church assumed that the Jews were both Judah and Israel and so they mistook Zionism for the fulfillment of prophecies of Israels regathering. This designation meant that he was given certain rights by which God protected him from the deceit of his brother, Jacob. The Edomites were the descendants of the biblical Esau, who was the son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham. 7 Days. But Israel was told to buy their food and water as they passed through Edom. Again, Im sorry, I know Im asking more questions even than the Canaanite woman asked of Yahusha. Or as Jesus says in Luke 16:15, "What is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.". So he goes to a parachute school, and they show him . preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, Mark 1:4 ( Luke 3:3; 24:47 ). Hebrews Israelites breakdown the Bible. He will cast out the bondwoman, that is, Hagar, who Paul identifies as the old Jerusalem (Gal. And for those on the path of Jacob God's encouraging word is, "Look up and rejoice, for your salvation is guaranteed". 1. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? It does matter who you are. A number of relatively obscure references are made to place names throughout the Old Testament. 6 You shall buy food from them with money so that you may eat, and you shall also purchase water from them with money so that you may drink. joy in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, Luke 15:7. Galatians 3:28even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BCE), who forcibly converted them to Judaism and incorporated them into the Jewish nation, despite the opposition of the pharisees. Yet knowing their identity as Edomites is the reason NOT to hate them, according to the divine law. Most Searched. OUTLINE Only one chapter List of Edom's transgressions v1-v14 Judgement for Edom's transgressionv15-v18 Restoration of Israel v19 - v21 CONTEXT: Israel was under under Judgement and babylonians plundered Israel. 2 And the Lord spoke to me, saying, 3 You have circled this mountain long enough. There are 11 other people with this name in the Old Testament, but there is no evidence for connecting this prophet with any of them. In a nutshell, they say Edom could not be the whiteman if David . The person who yields to the temptation of pride surrenders his capacity to think and feel and act without deception. Im thinking not, because in Song of Solomon 1:11 it says We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver. What are Edomites supposed to be wearing? . But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith YAHUAH. It is not true to say none of us know which tribe we are from. Who can tell if Elohiym will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? Since Judah had recently been driven into exile for her unbelief, and since judgment was coming upon Edom and the nations because of their pride and violence, we must assume that the people who escape God's judgment are those who humble themselves and trust God for his mercy (as Habakkuk 2:4 said). (By the way, this was not originally addressed to you, but was from a Facebook post I previously made). The year 1948 started our detour around Edom in the history of the Kingdom. Obadiah 1:18And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble,and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau;for YAHUAH hath spoken it. Isaiah is the most referenced Old Testament book in the New Testament, with approximately 100 citations and 500 allusions. Only the names of the 12 tribes of Israel are on the 12 gates of heaven in Revelation 21:12. If we choose in our pride to live without God, then he will grant us our independence in the day of the Lord. They are not the apple of YAHUAHS eyes. 30 Days. (PART 2) In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? Someone who The Most High hates as stated in Malachi 1:3 and Romans 9:13. . That fruitless fig tree had many leaves but no fruit. The former pastoral city of Bozrah in Edom is now a ruin on the plain southeast of the Dead Sea. Paul says in Romans 4:13 that the descendants of Abraham will inherit the world, not just a near eastern territory of Palestine. EDOM; EDOMITES. 1. to feel regretful or contrite for past conduct: to repent of an act. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TcP74Hsbhg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpbGSM0ZtM0. The principal cities of Edom, which were also the royal cities, can be learned from the list of kings, who reigned "before any king reigned over the Israelites" (Gen. 36). Jer 12:14Thus saith YAHUAH against all mine evil neighbours, that touch the inheritance which I have caused my people Israel to inherit; Behold, I will pluck them out of their land, and pluck out the house of Judah from among them. Opponents of two seedline are in the unenviable position of having to believe that the "seed" of the "Woman" is literal (Jesus, they say) while the "seed" of the "Serpent" has to be "spiritual" and that it just means naughty people. You cannot join yourself to YAHUAH and separate yourself from his people! And like all the other provinces, it will be freely shared with people from every tongue and tribe and nation who have accepted Jesus as Savior and submitted to him as King. He allowed the white mayenne they eat mites to rise and take over the Earth.He allowed them to steal the negros identity so that we would be pushed to jealousy And return Back to the father. Esau became the father of the Edomites and other nations, including Amalek. It's true that Edom is mentioned in both Isaiah 63 and Isaiah 34 in connection to God's ultimate judgment. Verses 116 are directed against Edom (the descendants of Esau who lived to the southeast of the Dead Sea), and verses 1721 focus on the vindication of Israel and the final establishment of God's kingdom on earth. There was also a legal problem with Zionism that must be understood. Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. And Elohiym saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and Elohiym repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Verse 17: "In Mount Zion there shall be those that escape, and it shall be holy." Isaiah 14:1 For YAHUAH will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel (in the end it will still be about Israel), and set them in their own land: and the strangers (Gentiles) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave (cling) to the house of Jacob (not separated from them). A descendant of Esau, who was born red and hairy. The Edomites will have nowhere to turn, and they have no understanding of the fact that all their former allies have turned against them. who are truly red and hairy whyte pepoe who are red and hairy even if they shaved or if they have alopecia or if they can tan in the sun, they are still an edomite people . He is author of. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.Romans 9:11-15. Step 1: Recognize that God's thoughts are higher and better than ours. 21:18-23) and thus lose his inheritance. "There is neither Jew nor Greek . Fifth, God has made a way of escape and salvation from his wrath. Oh thank you so much for this. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, a great slaughter in the land of Edom. Gods knows everything before it happens. To take hold of Yahuahs covenant and join ourselves to Israel, do we wear the blue borders and fringes? In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? Those of the Negeb shall possess Mount Esau, and those of the Shephelah the land of the Philistines; they shall possess the land of Ephraim and the land of Samaria and Benjamin shall possess Gilead. Helping his people back to his ways? So your the Gentile salvation is incidental and dependent on the salvation of Israel. Esau was the twin brother of Jacob, the father of 12 sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel. You need to understand the Gentile salvation and how it has been corrupted by the Edomites. You should not have stood at the parting of the ways to cut off his fugitives; you should not have delivered up his survivors in the day of distress. But his covenant membership was no guarantee that he would find salvation. When were Obadiahs prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)? Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Master, help me. When the good figs (Christians) were expelled from Judea in the great persecution (Acts 8:1), the evil figs remained with the Edomite converts to Judaism. IUIC doesnt say theres any hope at all for us. (OBADIAH) 1:10. Even though the prophet addressed the Edomites, who were descendants of Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, he had a message . Can Edomites Repent??? White people and white Jews are commonly referred to as "Edomites" or descendants of "Esau" and biblical enemies of Jacob (Israel). A commentary on the first speech of Moses in Deuteronomy 1-4. Repentant, Christ-honoring Israel will have her land, but it will be only one little province in the world-wide kingdom of the Lord. For your violence against your brother Jacob shame shall cover you, and you shall be cut off forever. Ive always been like that. True. In part 1, we looked at the question of whether it will be Israelites alone (the physical descendants of Jacob) who will be saved. (By the way, if you change your mind about what you are doing, your actions will follow.) And the Bible tells you that Esau is Edom. However, as we shall see, the salvation of the Gentiles is an incidental salvation and is contingent on the salvation of Israel. Revelation says that even in the Kingdom Satan will be loosed for a time and that the nations will war against Israel. However, you have to cling to them. The promises to Abraham are fulfilled in the New Jerusalem, not the old city, for Abraham himself sought a better country, that is a heavenly one (Heb. Your email address will not be published. Who can tell if Elohiym will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?And Elohiym saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and Elohiym repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. On the East of the `Arabah the northern border ran from the Dead Sea, and was marked by Wady el-Kurachi, or Wady el-Chasa. 1 Then we turned and set out for the wilderness by the way to the Red Sea, as the Lord spoke to me, and circled Mount Seir for many days. It's to admit that you made a mistake and that you are at the mercy of the judge's ruling. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Please make sure you adjust the Bundle Size and Quantity correctly for the amount you want to order. Now clinging to these people? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious Elohiym, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. We need to come to recognize that God's mind and thoughts are truly higher (and better) than ours. How Esau has been pillaged, his treasures sought out!" If this city is just an uninhabited archaeological dig and an uninhabited vacant place does this mean that the Holy Spirit's mention of Bozrah in relation to the returning Messiah is also dead? Note: "The Edomites were descendants of Abraham and Isaac, and for the sake of these His servants, God had shown favor to the children of Esau. It was common in those days to treat other nations as if they had no right to exist. Jonah then narrates the story of God's judgment on another of Israel's enemies, Assyria, but the Assyrians, unlike the Edomites, repent! Verse 4: "Though you soar aloft like the eagle, though your nest is set among the stars, thence I will bring you down, says the Lord." Read the passages that deal with repenting but also read more fully of the text, to help God's word enter into your heart and give your guidance. 23:7, God said, You shall not detest an Edomite, for he is your brother.. ButGod called them your brothers the sons of Esau. Later, in Deut. Verse 3: "The pride of your heart has deceived you." In the twentieth century, a new political movement arose called Zionism. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. Then God himself addresses Edom directly in verses 216. The first step to true repentance is changing how we think. In this list, Bozrah and Teman are mentioned with other towns such as Avith, Rehoboth Hanahar, Masrekah, and Pau, about which nothing is known from the Bible or from other . The LORD has a sword; it is sated with blood, it is gorged with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. If given opportunity, nations would regularly invade and plunder the wealth of another nation, if they thought they might get away with it. There are many today who understand Zionism as an Edomite desire to inherit the old land of Canaan, but who react to it in an unlawful manner. Most people in the world have no experience of lasting joy in their lives. It is not unrighteous with God that he made one vessel to honour and 1 vessel to dishonour. Subscribe. . 11:16). At the same time, God will fulfill another set of prophecies. She should have humbled herself and repented of her own pride and cried out to the Lord for mercy, lest she fall prey to a similar fate (cf. That's the end of part one: verses 116. (PART 2) In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? Then Yahusha answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. But, in typical prophetic perspective, Obadiah does not distinguish between the more immediate historical judgments of God upon Edom and the final day of judgment at the end of the age. If this were not so, he could not promise Judah that he would cut off Edom and establish Jacob. As the Hebrews wandered throughout the Sinai Desert on their way to what would become their home in Canaan, they had to pass through Edom. Because Esau had received a promise from his father Isaac, it was necessary that the nation be in existence to fulfill that promise. Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall?